| Name: Lee
Roller
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Cleveland, OH Time: 2000-07-12 14:43:51 Comments: Hey Johnny, try the old standby comeback 'opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one' just before you walk away. |
| Name: Jerry
Grenn
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Boynton Beach, FL Time: 2000-07-11 17:14:27 Comments: I was involved in a motorcycle accident in 1989. I wound up in the hospital for a few weeks due to a shattered femur. I then spent the next two years in and out of surgery and physical therapy 5 days a week. The only thing that saved my life was my helmet. I beleive that all riders should wear a helmet, otherwise we'll just weed out the others that believe differently...... |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-07-11 16:36:44 Comments: I have made up my mind, if a cop stops me and wants to see other than my group hospital card, I will take the ticket and go to court. Enough of these in front of the court, and the judges will educate these officers. The most hanous story I have heard is from the girl claiming the female cop ignored the new law, and made her put on her helmet along with a warning ticket. That sounds like a personal vendetta against HB 1911. I have noticed the new law gives the doomsday sayers another pair of openers for their conversation. You know the type. They are always non-riders, but they always have a story to tell about an acquaintance of theirs either being killed or maimed on a motorcycle. And then their conversation goes downhill from there. It always ends up with sound advice, and in a nice way tells us we are idiots for riding. They then become traffic safety experts, all wise, all knowing. Now they ask; "when did they do away with the helmet law?" As if they didn't know. Then they usually say "I think that is a terrible thing, blah blah blah". They are doing this as I am walking away. I get in a hurry, rather than insult them, but I am tired of being nice. Can anyone tell me any snappy come-backs to this that will tell them "I DONT WANT TO HEAR ALL THAT SHIT !!???" |
| Name: John
Denham
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Kissimmee, FL Time: 2000-07-11 00:14:32 Comments: Agree that the insurance, be it VA, work, etc, should be enough...however, it appears the cops want to see the PIP checked on the insurance card for the bike and that is all they will take....so how do we educate them???? |
| Name: Gene
Resmondo
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: High Springs Fla Time: 2000-07-10 20:14:41 Comments: I have asked a lot of Questions about the insurance and the best I can find out is your medical ins. from your employer or be it private bc/bs will be all you need as long as it will cover you for $10,000 if you have a MOTORCYCLE Accident. That will be all you need untill we get this ins. thing ammended. |
| Name: Robert
Valdes
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Trenton, Fl Time: 2000-07-10 17:35:32 Comments: My insurance company (Allstate) Tells me that since Florida does not have mandatory insurance on motorcycles, that in the event of an accident, your medical insurance covers you. Since there is a law for autos, your medical coverage provider would collect from your auto insurance for injuries. My insurer, who is a biker, says my BC/BS is more than adequate to meet the requirement of the amendment. Now we need to be vigilant in not only getting the insurance requirement dropped, but also making sure no one comes up with a motorcycle insurance requirement. |
| Name: John
Denham
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Kissimmee, Fl Time: 2000-07-10 08:18:13 Comments: Just found this site while trying to get more info on insurance requirment. My insurance company (Progressive) will be happy to provide the coverage for an ADDITIONAL $250 a year!!! Gezzzz... Anyway, trying to see if anyone knows...as retired military, I have full medical through VA...so why should I need additional $10,000 insurance?? Same goes for active duty military...they have full medical coverage...why should they be required to shell out $$$ for extra insurance that they can't/won't use??? The law, as I read it, only says $10,000 coverage, but little more than that. Who can I contact to see if my VA coverage will cover this $10,000?? Know there are lots of others in same position I am... anyone have any info?? Thanks!! |
| Name: GK
Pace
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Mims, Florida Time: 2000-07-08 14:40:08 Comments: Day 8, and thus far no harrassment that I've seen. Ridden all over Brevard, Volusia, Orange, and Seminole Counties sans helmet, and have not been stopped. Maybe I'm just lucky, but so far it doesn't seem that they are engaging in harrasment over the helmet issue yet. When are we going to organize and get this insurance issue removed from the law? When are we going to start working on getting the law changed to match the legal age (18)? Now is the time to start the effort! -gk |
| Name: Mike
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Fort Lauderdale Time: 2000-07-05 12:58:07 Comments: I just spoke to my insurance company... They asked me if the law requires the Bodily injury for me (the rider) or the other person in the crash. If it is the other person it's only a few hundred dollars, but if it's the rider it jumps up to 1600 dollars. The original quote was 121.00 for other and 368 for the rider, but that is only 1,000 dollars in coverage. I'M SO CONFUSED!!! Mike |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-07-05 07:47:32 Comments: To Pat.. Like the last fellow, I am sorry you lost your Dad. I assume it was due to an accident on a motorcycle. If it was in Florida, there was a law he was to be wearing a helmet. As for your boyfriend, however, there is no law saying he cannot wear one. In fact, at his age, there is a law saying he will. And you see how much good the law does. But you can't expect us all to wear a helmet to make sure your boyfriend does. That's between you and him. As far as us being idiots,you need to read up on what the pro's and con's are concerning helmets. They might save your head at no more than 30 MPH., but they tend to break the two vital vertibrae in your spine when your head snaps back. This either kills you or leaves you as a veggie. Over 30 MPH nothing will save your head. The helmet shatters, your skull AND your spine is gone. You are obviously very young and inexperienced. You will find in your lifetime, that the whole world does not center around your whims. It sounds cold, but it is a fact of life. Take the issue up with the young man you want the whole world to protect. You stand a better chance of winning. Why don't we make pockets on our pants illegal so the police can be assured we are not carrying a gun. Take the doors and windows off our cars so the world will be able to see we have no illegal substance inside. That's about as ridiculous as saying we all have to wear helmets to make sure your boyfriend wears one. |
| Name: KYle
Raines
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Orlando, Fl. Time: 2000-07-04 05:59:40 Comments: Well Ive heard and been told that you won't be stoped by FHP just for not wearing a helmet but that's not true! On state hiway 520 between the Bee Line(528) and I-95 on 7/2/00 I was stopped for no other reason and issued a warning ticket. The FHP officer said I was his 12th stop so far that morning at 12:25pm all for not wearing a shell! I was not speeding but was being tailgated by several 4-wheelers on their way to the beach who were doing at least 75+ in a 55mph zone after they passed me. But I got pulled over just because of no helmet!!!!! I wore my shell he rest of the day and watched as dozens of other bikers rode around toppless. So was this just my bad luck?,or just an asshole cop harrassing bikes? I cant make out his name on the ticket but I think the ID# is 1012-0925 troop D. Let me know what you think and keep up the great work!! PS I also just joined the NRA, Freedom is a cause worth standing up for!!!! |
| Name: Sonny
Gregory
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Arkansas Time: 2000-07-03 10:27:38 Comments: My personal opinion is that helmet laws suck. If a person wears a helmet or not let it be their choice. I dont need someone telling me I need to wear a helmet. It is like a seatbelt,no one should have to wear asealtbelt if they dont want to. |
| Name: Lee
Roller
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-07-03 08:19:15 Comments: Pat, you need more assurance and security than any helmet law can give you. I am sorry for the obvious pain you still carry from your father's death, but controlling others' rights to choose wan't make you feel better. Get help. |
| Name: pat
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: orlando Time: 2000-07-02 23:49:55 Comments: i'd just tell to tell gov. bush and everyone else out there that "you're all IDIOTS". have you ever thought about how it only takes one time, and life as you know it no longer exists. riding in general is dangerous enough(which i don't by the way oppose), but riding with nothing to protect that ever so delicate and precious tissue that operates every function, sense, and ability we possess is just plain ignorant. my boyfriend is out riding right now..without his helmet..he's not 21, and he doesn't have the insurance either, but why should that stop him? right? i mean, it's not like a cop is going to stop him just for not wearing a helmet anymore. after all, it is legal for some people now. i watched my father die, and i don't think it is fair that the state of florida is allowing another man in my life to take a suicide mission, because, that's what it all comes down to, why don't we make it so you don't need brakes or break lights either? after all, they're ONLY safty devices. |
| Name: DougM
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Freeport. FL Time: 2000-06-27 20:10:29 Comments: Many thanks to the Webmaster for a great job. Have already emailed the Governor a thank you. Now we need everyone to consider the possibility that the other Mr. Bush may be able to inject some common sense into the national scene as brother JEB has done here in Florida. WOW, maybe after killing the insurance requirement, we can go after seatbelts!! Freedom of choice in America, WHO'D A THOUGHT IT? |
| Name: Little Mac
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Brandon Time: 2000-06-22 10:55:13 Comments: Wanted to let everyone know that Allstate insurance will only give you $2,000 in personal injury coverage. Good Job on Helmet Law 101. I'll be happy to ride with you in the fredom of choice run next week |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jax Time: 2000-06-18 21:05:57 Comments: Has anyone thought to call or write the opponents of HB 1911 to give them the hazing they deserve? The Orlando and St.Pete newspapers? Elaine Blume? They need to have their noses rubbed in it, and maybe next time they'll keep those same noses out of our business. Tell them "NANNY NANNY BOO BOO! Then give them the Archie Bunker raspberry. MOZLETOFF Elaine.-------------------------------Johnny Pate |
| Name: Mike
Fitzgerald
Website: Paradise Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Bradenton, Fl Time: 2000-06-18 05:28:39 Comments: Just a word of thanks for this webmaster and all the hard work put into this site and keeping it up to date. Lets not forget to email the Gov. and all those who had their hand in getting this law passed. And say THANKS! Keep the shiny side up, ride safe brothers |
| Name: skillet
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: ORL Time: 2000-06-17 15:32:12 Comments: Mega thanks to everyone for all of their efforts. I hit my bookmark for the update page last night at 3am and could not believe my eyes! A damn dream come true. Believe that I've already sent JEB and "Doc" a couple of bigass thanks. I hope that everyone else will do the same. RID IT LIKE YA STOLE IT! Free at last. |
| Name: Lee
Roller
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-06-17 11:14:53 Comments: I want to add my own thanks to the Webmaster of this site. Most of us are either too lazy to fight or have no freakin' idea how to make a difference in the process of government. My thanks to Helmet Law 101 for giving us a place to focus our attention, stay informed, direct our efforts and make us able to make a difference. I am looking forward to the updates on the new law and finding out what will constitute 'proof of medical insurance' (that could become interesting). My thanks to the Webmaster, the Governor, but most of all my thanks to each and every one of you who participated in this process. This would not have happened if we had all waited for someone else to take care of it. |
| Name: Luchinelli
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Clearwater Time: 2000-06-17 09:51:52 Comments: Yeah baby - Kudos to the webmaster; I can only imagine how much time and effort it took to keep up this excellent site. You alone are probably responsible for hundreds of e-mails, letters and faxes to Jeb - See you at the Freedom of choice run, I'll be the guy without the helmet :-) |
| Name: John
Wollar
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Miami Time: 2000-06-17 07:10:42 Comments: Just read a few letters regarding the new helmet law.The last person to thank is the Governor. The first people to thank is all of you that made it possible for Jeb to be the last. There may be times I will still wear a helmet. There will be other times I will not wear a helmet. FREEDOM OF CHOICE, what a concept |
| Name: Weyland
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Fort Lauderdale Time: 2000-06-17 00:35:42 Comments: I want to apologize for mis-typing in Frank's name as "George". I was calling everyone I could think of to tell them of the news after I veified it, and just got done calling "George". (Too excited) Frank, you have done a spectacular job with the site! Your personal efforts have made those of the MRO's look shameful at best. Thank you again. I have written a "thank you" letter to Jeb, and encourage everyone else to do the same...because next year after we've proven the medical coverage unnecessary, and lobby to have it removed, I want him to remember that we remembered him and his actions. |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jax Time: 2000-06-16 23:07:43 Comments: DON'T FORGET TO E'MAIL JEB AND THANK HIM FOR RESTORING THE FREEDOM WE LOST 30 YEARS AGO !!!!! REMEMBER HIM WHEN IT COMES TIME TO VOTE. IT TOOK A STUPID DEMOCRAT TO START ALL THIS HELMET LAW CRAP. IT TOOK A REPUBLICAN ( A GOOD OLD BOY FROM TEXAS ) TO STRAIGHTEN IT OUT. REMEMBER THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO VOTE AGAINST THAT STUPID AL GORE!!--------------------------------------------- I especially want to thank the editor of this website for the unconditional dedication he has shown the past couple of years that I have been following this site. A stellar job is too mild of a statement. U-R TOP DRAWER GUY!!!! Johnny Pate |
| Name: Duane
Davidson
Website: HOG ORLANDO Referred by: Yahoo! From: ORLANDO Time: 2000-06-16 23:00:45 Comments: YAHOO FOR BUSH!! And YAHOO for this website!!! Well done guys! Ahhh.....no helmet, no underpants......the way life was meant to be! |
| Name: Weyland
Smith
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Fort Lauderdale Time: 2000-06-16 17:45:37 Comments: WoooHooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just got a reply to my daily e-mails to Jeb. "I signed the bill today." I took the time and verified the origin. It's real. We did it! No more helmets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you to all that have worked hard for this. And thanks to George for the GREAT page keeping us informed! Now, let's celebrate our freedom!!!!!!!! |
| Name: BA
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-06-16 11:14:53 Comments: Let the people choose! |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jax Time: 2000-06-16 07:54:48 Comments: Of the 336 bikers mentioned in the most recent entry, two were killed less than two weeks ago in the Jax-St.Augustine area. One was a head-on on SR207 with an SUV, the second was with a semi on St.Augustine Rd. In both cases, the 4 wheelers were charged with the accident. Both riders were wearing legal helmets. A lot of good the helmets did them. Jeb needs to know this, not only from me, but from you as well. I notice the "Voice Your Opinion" page is sort of quiet. This indicates to me that you guys are slowing down on this. Now is not the time to slow down. Keep hammering the Gov., as I am sure that Elaine Blume bitch is. She knows it all, and probably never ridden. Johnny Pate |
| Name: Larry
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Orlando Time: 2000-06-14 17:06:29 Comments: In responce to Jimmyk001. Yes this is a form letter. I received one yesterday that appears to have the same content. I also received form responces to the e-mails which I sent him. This means that his staff is rsponding to the mails, however, it does mean that our numbers are being counted and reported to the Governer. We should keep up the pressure until it passes. |
| Name: PAUL
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: LAKE WORTH FL. Time: 2000-06-14 15:49:54 Comments: HOPE GOVERNOR BUSH SIGNS THE HELMET LAW ALLOWING THE FREEDOM TO RIDE MOTORCYCLES WITHOUT HELMETS |
| Name: Jimmyk001
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Miami Time: 2000-06-13 09:49:07 Comments: Well, things might be looking up. In yesterday's mail, I got a letter from Jeb as a response to one that I sent him requesting his support on HB 1911. The letter reads " Thank you for your letter.....yatta, yatta, yatta. Anyway, the meat of the letter reads as follows: "As with any bill, I will review the motorcycle helmet bill for technical accuracy, unintended consequences, and other general criteria. I am not opposed to a law allowing motorcycle helmets to be worn at the discretion of the riders as long as riders are adults and properly insured." Anyway, I just thought you all may be interested. PS - Is this a form letter? Did anyone else get the same one? Lets keep our fingers crossed - one week to go. |
| Name: Thom
Slinlguff
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Boca Raton, Fl Time: 2000-06-12 19:00:09 Comments: Called the gov. office today as well as sent an Email to all address. I've also sent a letter via snail mail. When I spoke to the Gov. office they advised that the calls and emails for the gov. to sign the bill is overwelming at this point. We should all keep the pressure on at this point. |
| Name: Mikel
McGee
Website: N/A Referred by: From a Friend From: Key West, FL Time: 2000-06-12 12:36:44 Comments: Dear Governor Bush: I have previously written regarding HB1911. I would further like to state my case as it regards the area I live in. I live in the island city of Key West. Here in Key West the mainstay of transportation are scooters. To operate a scooter there is no law requiring riders to wear a helmet. Scooters can average in speed of 40 mph. The speed limit in Key West does not go above 35 mph. I own and operate a motorcycle here. In regards to motorcycle safety features, they have a better breaking system than a scooter. They have larger tires for better control and, if need be can be accelerated to avoid potential accidents. I myself would choose not to wear a helmet within city limits but would wear full face protection on US1. In summary, motorcycles are safer than scooters, but we are required to wear helmets where operators of scooters are not. Also the ratio of scooters to motorcycles in Monroe county are probably somewhere around 20 - 1. I urge you to sign HB1911 and give us, the operators of motorcycles, the choice of whether or not to wear head protection. Sincerely, Mikel McGee 3301 Duck Ave., Unit C Key West, FL 33040 (305) 292-7150 |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jax Time: 2000-06-11 07:18:53 Comments: The jeb@jeb.org gets to the Governor. I clicked on that one, and got replies from what appears to be Jeb himself. While I was at it, I also used it to send a protest to the emissions test in Duval County. He replied. Why is he being so quiet about the helmet bill? A friend of mine said he will probably wait until the last minute to sign it, because he feels if he signs it now, the lids will come off now. Maybe he's right. YA KNOW What??? Late at night, with no cops around, I sometimes slide that old bucket off and sneak a preview of what it feels like to ride free. It's just as good as I remember it from the 60's. Sort of makes me want to spuzz in my jeans. |
| Name: Pete
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Palm Beach Gardens Time: 2000-06-10 19:51:10 Comments: George, you need an underscore "_" between the fl and the governor in the address. Just click on the link in the page. Also Bob, I'm sure people are just posting what they have already sent to Jeb. Some of the letters are pretty damn good but I don't have the gift of gab so I just sent him, Please Sign HB1911. |
| Name: Robert
Valdes
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Trenton Time: 2000-06-10 13:34:46 Comments: For the people who keep sending their jeb letters here, I hope you are also sending them to jeb@jeb.org Otherwise he won't see them. Bob |
| Name: George
Pilioglos
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Orlando Fl Time: 2000-06-10 11:21:03 Comments: Would like to inform you I am in favor of immediate signing of the bill HB1911. Also just to inform you that the address to email flgovernor@eog.state.fl.us is not allowing us to go to that site, is this a missprint, if so please respond! George Pilioglos |
| Name: Mike
Reid
Website: Referred by: htmlGEAR From: Lakeland Time: 2000-06-09 22:45:47 Comments: Subj: Your Word Date: 6/1/00 11:41:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: JMR1 TLR2 To: fl_governor@eog.state.fl.us Mr. Bush, I have been a supporter of you ever since you got into office. I have not decided if I will wear a helmet if the law is passed . I did know that without a doubt it would be my decision after I saw you on TV saying you would sign it if it passed . That is irrevalant now, whether I vote for you or not is. I have suported you because I thought you were a man of your word. I like your decisions so far, don't let me down. It's not so much about the helmet law anymore, as it is about my trusting you. |
| Name: Mark
Stockdale
Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Gainesville FL Time: 2000-06-09 10:47:11 Comments: Mr. Bush, I am writing to ask that you please sign (HB 1911). My interest in this bill is the provision for changing Florida's helmet law. I am a school teacher who has been ridding motorcycles for over 18 years. I am fully insured through my health plan so the insurance provision does not worry me other than the fact that it may be used by police officers as an excuse to harass motorcyclists. The majority of us who ride have decent jobs and health plans far exceeding the required $10,000 proposed. It is my contention that wearing a helmet should be a choice, not only as a mater of personal liberty but also because I feel they do as much harm as good. The fact of the matter is that many motorcyclists do not wear DOT approved helmets now because they obstruct vision and hearing, and are bulky and hot. Please continue the Republican stance of less government being better and sign (HB 1911). Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter. Sincerely, Mark W. Stockdale, M.Ed. |
| Name: Bob "Joker"
Denney
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Tampa, FL Time: 2000-06-08 15:55:19 Comments: Governor Bush needs to remember that those voters that oppose the bill are doing so as a minor objection, they usually have no real concern or involvement in the issue. For that reason, the way he acts on the bill will probably NOT affect how they vote in the next gubernatoral election. The supporters of the bill however are fervent in their support and passionate about the issue. I firmly believe that those supporters, who are also voters, will base their next gubernatorial vote on how Governor Bush acts on the bill. I for one will more than likely cast a vote FOR him next time if he passes this bill. I will DEFINITELY cast a vote against him if he vetoes it. |
| Name: joefajardo
Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Miami Springs Time: 2000-06-08 15:10:27 Comments: Dear Mr. Governor, I have been a motorcycle rider for sixteen years. In all these years I never had an accident. I have accumulated over 500,000 miles on all types of roads. At this time I own five motorcycles and there are some days that I would like to have the choice to either use or not to use a helmet. I ask that you please sign HB1911 and make it into law. It will make a grateful number of people very happy. Joe Fajardo Miami Springs FL |
| Name: Chilidog
aka Bill Woodland
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Tampa Time: 2000-06-07 20:46:48 Comments: Hey if you are reading this dont forget to write to the governor, and get at least one friend to, then sit there and make him/her do it!! also remind people that you discuss this issue with that this doesnt take the helmets off the heads of others....if someone feels safer with a helmet they should have it....I dont even really like to hear the "safer without a helmet" arguement....if we cared about the roads being safer we would put second offense DUI offenders away for 10 years....(the guy who hit me head-on was a second offender)....if we cared about safety there would be a rule that said any cop that saw someone go through a red light would HAVE to give him/her/it a ticket...if you would like to see a hilarious example of non-enforcement of traffic laws spend some time on Dale Mabry Hwy in Tampa....youd think that they passed a law that said "all imported luxury cars and huge SUVs piloted by a yuppie on a cellphone has the right-of-way". So would a biker without a helmet be a burden on society? well if you factor out the ones who wouldnt've been hurt if the person who shouldnt of been driving in the first place hadnt hit em' well i bet there would be precious few.....and i would rather support the caretaking of 100 hurt bikers than 2 aids infected crack heads....how about some laws for them? maybe produce proof of insurance to buy malt liquor?....dont be lazy!,florida is one of the largest states, one of the fastest growing, and the rest of the country is watching!...we can make this happen if we convince the governor that the people who want freedom can out holla' the people who dont....and when another freedom issue comes up that doesnt pertain to you remember to speak up then too..we need ALL our freedoms, free speech, freedom to assemble (without being gassed or beaten), and it wouldnt hurt to decriminalize a certain harmless herb.....but im rambling now....thanks for reading this....Chili D ridin free.... |
| Name: Ellen
Roberts
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Auburndale Time: 2000-06-06 22:35:04 Comments: Dear Governor Bush, Please respect my right to make an adult decision and let those who Ride Decide by signing HB1911 when it comes to your desk. I am a new bike rider, (one year) in my mid-forties enjoying the beauties of our wonderful State, smelling the aromas of the blossoms in the citrus groves, the salt in the air, the moisture of the morning dew and seeing the amazement of nature. I have had to make many adult decisions in my life and would appreciate the opportunity to make one more. Thank you for your consideration. |
| Name: GK
Pace
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Mims, Florida Time: 2000-06-06 17:47:10 Comments: I just sent my opinions (below) to Governor Jeb... I realize that the political environment is awash with dynamically charged opposing opinions concerning the Helmet provisions of HB 1911. It really is too bad that honor, honesty, and freedom do not rule the political environment... instead it seems that misinformation, political pressure, and fear are used to sway the process rather than allowing sound judgement, facts, and concern for protecting individual rights in an honorable manner, to play a dominant role in the process. The truth is that those who ride motorcycles should have the right to choose. Isn't it the responsibility of a Government charged with protecting the rights of an individual, to protect the minority from the control of the majority - when less than an overwhelming reason would dictate otherwise? The truth is that those who ride motorcycles (with or with out helmets) are not a burden to society at large, much less a "potentially significant" burden, if they are given the right to choose on this issue. Those of us who ride motorcycles comprise a very small amount of the accident statistics, and a much smaller portion of the health burden statistics. The truth is that the use of helmets has not proven to be a significant factor in the safe use of a motorcycle. Sure they can reduce the severity of certain types injuries, but they can also increase the severity of others... Statistically, use of helmets has not proven to improve ones chances of surviving (or not becoming incapacitated due to) a serious accident. There has been a lot of misinformation disseminated concerning this, and thus many do not understand the truth of this... but the facts are there, and available for those who wish to consider them with unbiased reason. There are many other factors which have, and continue to have bearing on the safe use of a motorcycle, such as training programs for safe use of motorcycles, and programs to train automobile drivers (the cause of over two-thirds of all motorcycle accidents) on their responsibility for sharing the road with motorcycles. Those of us who ride motorcycles - "Bikers" if you wish, are a minority. We are not all bad, we are those who are productive enough to ride vehicles that cost $15,000 and (much) above, are generally well educated, we Vote, are professionals and/or own businesses, we have a concern for the environment (motorcycles are less polluting and burn much less gasoline), we come from all walks of life, we are Veterans who served valiantly, are represented by every race, creed, and religion... and, non-the-less, we are a minority. As a minority, we have suffered abuse, but unlike many other minorities, the Government has yet to acknowledge us, and make any effort to offer us protection from such abuse... The time is now, for a significant wrong to be corrected, for those of us who ride to once again have the freedom of choice. Let Those Who Ride Decide! Our fate sits on your desk. You have the power to restore our Freedom, and we anxiously await your decision on how your power will be used in this matter... Please sign HB 1911 -gk |
| Name: Bob
Bennett
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Orlando, Fl Time: 2000-06-05 11:30:58 Comments: I don't understand how anyone could not be for "Freedom of Choice". It will be my choice to continue to wear a helmet, it may not be safety measure that it is said to be but it does make me feel a little safer. The fact is I made that choice and it was not made for me. Thank You for this forum. |
| Name: Vicki
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: St. Pete Time: 2000-06-05 00:05:51 Comments: I just wanted to share with you fine people what I sent to the Governor. I hope everyone is doing something. Dear Governor Bush, I understand your concern that Floridians may be forced to pay for injured motorcyclist. With all due respect, I'm not sure where you received your information that motorcyclists are or will be a burden on society. I ask that you please look at the information from our own great State's Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, Traffic Crash Facts for 1998. What you will find briefly is; If you wear a safety helmet you are 2.78 times more likely to die in a traffic crash then without the helmet. If you wear a safety helmet you are 1.34 times more likely to receive an incapacitating injury and 1.11 times more likely to receive a non incapacitating injury then without the helmet. If you DO NOT wear a safety helmet you are 1.92 times more likely to walk away from the crash then you would be if you had your safety helmet securely fastened upon you head. If this information is correct Governor, would you want to wear a helmet? I also want to direct you to the analysis provided by the Florida House Committee on Transportation and other Committees that took up HB 117 this session. The direct quote is, "Although the bill does not have a direct fiscal impact on the state, exempting riders over 21 years of age from protective headgear requirements may increase the number of deaths and injuries associated with motorcycle crashes. However, there are conflicting positions concerning the costs related to mandatory helmet laws and there is no definitive study which is conclusive on this issue (please see Other Comments under part V. Comments section below)." Governor, where is the data that leads you to believe that motorcyclist are or will be a burden. If there is no conclusive data on this issue then why should this issue cause you a dilemma? If there is no conclusive data then why should there be a law? Finally Governor, no one can deny that some motorcycle crashes will result in head injuries, whether or not a helmet is used. But head injuries occur, and in far greater numbers, for automobile drivers and there passengers, and again in greater numbers for pedestrians. Why is it then that, not only is insurance necessary for the motorcyclists, but it is also necessary in an amount in excess of what is required for automobile drivers, their passengers and pedestrians. Doesn't this sound like a predigest or discrimination? And how about motorcyclists who pay for those uninsured individuals in automobiles and uninsured pedestrians? Are not motorcyclists tax payers also? Governor, all of the information I have given you here is based on facts. You can find it yourself in the 1998 Florida Traffic Crash Facts. Please do not discriminate against motorcyclist and sign HB1911. Sincerely, Victoria |
| Name: Sharkey
Pruette
Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Milton, Florida Time: 2000-06-04 21:32:39 Comments: I sent an email to Bush today. Got the same canned reply thanking me for the advice on HB1911 and telling me that he has hundreds of bills to go through right now. Here is the letter I sent to him, and the attachments. I hope this isn't too long to be on here. If it is, just delete it. Sharkey Dear Governor Bush, My name is Jim Pruette. I live in Milton Florida. I want to begin by saying that it is not my intent to offend you, but I do tend to talk straight, so please bear with me. I want to ask you to sign the bill, HB1911. That will be a start. However, it is my intention to ride without a helmet, regardless. Please let me explain. The Florida Helmet Law has already been declared unconstitutional. I have included copies of the orders as attachments for your viewing. I have also included other court documents that show that traffic citations issued for failure to wear helmets are routinely thrown out of court. I have heard that you are a fair and reasonable man. I hope so. It will save a lot of trouble and expense on behalf of the people you were elected to serve. Freedom is alive and well to some of us still here in America. The hooey about us being a burden to the rest of the citizens is nothing more than propoganda put forth by the insurance people. Don't buty into that stuff. Please take the time to read the attachments I am sending to you. They are copies of legal Court proceedings. It should tell you where this row will end one way or the other. Thank you, Jim Pruette (aka Sharkey) 7932 Pamalito Circle Milton, Florida 32583 (850) 626-3520 Home (850) 449-3355 Cell Remember...... It's Not The Destination, It's The Journey FLORIDA COURT RULES FLORIDA HELMET LAW UNCONSTITUTIONAL (March 1995) Chico Yasco, Florida State Director for the Helmet Law Defense League, won a major victory against Florida's twenty five year old helmet law. Yasco won a "not guilty" decision on three charges of wearing an illegal helmet, on the grounds that the Florida helmet law is unconstitutionally vague. Defense Attorney Demetrios C. Kirkiles, working pro bono, and Chico Yasco (crediting help provided from HLDL headquarters in California) presented their case as never before tried in the State of Florida. After hearing three-and-one-half hours of testimony, Broward County Judge Peter B. Skolnik, in a ten page written opinion, declared Florida's helmet law unconstitutional. In explaining its decision, the court wrote: "This case came before this court from the consolidation of three traffic citations issued by two police officers. . . . The court having heard testimony from both officers and the defendant (Chico) and appropriate notice being given to all concerned parties including the state attorneys office, finds as follows: "1. Citations were issued premised on improper headgear pursuant to Florida Statute Section 316.211 which is required to follow the standards established under 49 CFR 571.218 (FMVSS 218). "2. The officers predicated the stops based on the appearance of the helmets. They testified the helmets appeared too small, too tight and close to the head, and to be of a type thought by the police officers to be in violation of the statute. "3. The officers confiscated helmets on two of the three occasions. "4. Officer Smith testified he observed the Defendant in traffic from a distance as he was driving in the opposite direction. Officer Scarapino testified he observed the Defendant as the Defendant made a right turn at the intersection. Officer Scarapino was stopped at the intersection facing south. The defendant proceeding ease made a right turn at the intersection. "5. After the stop the officers made a visual inspection of the helmets and determined that they were in violation of Florida statute Section 316.211(1) because the padding was too thin, the weight of the helmet was too light, and the size was too small. Both officers also testified that at least two inches of styrofoam padding was necessary to make the helmet compliant with the standards. "6. The officers based their determination that the helmets were unsafe on their own subjective knowledge and personal experience. "7. The officers were not engineers, materials experts, or helmet experts. "8. They received to formal police training in detecting unsafe helmets. "9. There was no scientific testing done on these particular model helmets by the police officer or any other governmental testing agency prior or subsequent to the issuance of the citations. "10. These particular model helmets were not the subject of a recall and were not the subject of any pending DOT investigation at the time the citations were issued. "11. The helmets in question were properly labeled in accordance with 49 CFR 571.218. The officers agreed that the required certification labeling was on the helmets and was in accordance with the statute. "12. The officers produced a list of approved helmets issued 1989 from the Florida Highway Patrol. The list was difficult to obtain and did not indicate on its face, nor was any evidence presented, as to who compiled or published the list. No updated or subsequently approved helmet list is available. In ruling on these issues, Judge Skolnik stated: "This court finds the defendant 'NOT GUILTY' on all counts of improper headgear under Florida Statute Section 316.211 which incorporates FMVSS 218, under the due process clauses of the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments of the United States Constitution and Article I Section 9 and Section 16(a) of the Florida Constitution. The ordinary citizen must be able to read FMVSS 218 and understand clearly the mandated behavior. "A citizen can, as in the instant case, comply with the law and still be subject to punishment. "This court further finds there is a substantial inconsistency in the courts regarding ruling on this statute and certifies the following question as one of great public importance: "WHETHER FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 316.211, WHICH INCORPORATES 49 CFR 571.218 (FMVSS 218) AND FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER 15.B-1.006, IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AS VIOLATIVE OF DUE PROCESS BECAUSE; CITIZENS ARE NOT AFFORDED FAIR WARNING OF PROSCRIBED CONDUCT DUE TO THE UNAVALIBILITY AND LACK OF THE STATUTORILY REQUIRED CURRENT LIST OF APPROVED HELMETS; THE STATUTORY IMPOSITION OF SELF CERTIFICATION BY HELMET MANUFACTURERS THAT HELMETS MEET PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS CANNOT BE RELIED UPON WITH CERTAINTY BY CONSUMERS AS COMPLIANCE; AND/OR A JUDICIAL DETERMINATION THAT A SPECIFIC HELMET IS IN COMPLIANCE CANNOT BE RELIED ON WITH CERTAINTY AS COMPLIANCE." The importance of this decision is that, in Florida, a finding that a statute is unconstitutional is subject to immediate (within 30 days) review by the Florida Supreme Court. The certified question (above) must be answered, and a final determination by the Supreme Court rendered. If the process is followed as prescribed by law, Florida will be a helmet law free state in time for Daytona. Chico insists that this victory couldn't have been possible without the helmet of the Helmet Law Defense League, but the HLDL is quick to respond that this victory wouldn't have come at all were it not for the dedication of Chico and his trusty attorney/friend Demetrios Kirkiles -- a one-man dynamo of litigative expertise. The one thing we don't have to wait for March first to report is that this case, like the Washington decision, absolutely confirms the HLDL's fighting slogan -- "NO LIST?, NO LAW!" (While Chico and Demetrios are, at their own expense, struggling to make sure this case holds up -- which would take out a law that has lasted over a quarter of a century in Florida -- the resources of Florida's motorcycling community are being spent lobbying the Florida Legislature for a bill which would exempt motorcyclists from wearing helmets on Sunday . . . or otherwise just picking up trash on the freeway. Am I missing something here? Ed) IN THE COUNTY COURT OF THE SIXTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN AND FOR PINELLAS COUNTY STATE OF FLORIDA, V. FRANK LANDRY, Defendant. CASE NO. 96-09369 OPASP ORDER GRANTING DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO DISMISS BASED UPON DEFENDANT'S RELIANCE UPON THE COURT'S RULING THAT FLORIDA STATUTE 316.211 IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL THIS CAUSE coming before the Court on May 8, 1996 to be heard upon the Defendant's Motion to Dismiss Based upon the Unconstitutionality of Florida Statute 316.211(1), the Court having heard testimony of the Defendant, argument of Counsel and having reviewed case law and being fully advised in the premises, it is hereby ORDERED AND ADJUDGED THAT the DEFENDANT'S Motion is GRANTED based upon the Defendant's reliance upon the Court's ruling in State v. David Raynal, Case No. 94-22863 OMANC (North Pinellas County Traffic Court 12-8-95) and State ex rel Williams v. Whitman, 156 So. 705 (Fla. 1934). DONE AND ORDERED in St. Petersburg, Pinellas County, Florida, this Eighth day of May, 1996. RADFORD W. SMITH COUNTY JUDGE cc: Ron Smith, Esquire County Attorney State Attorney Attorney General Pinellas County |
| Name: Ellen
Brown
Website: HarleyGirl's Home Page Referred by: Net Search From: Cocoa Time: 2000-06-04 13:10:32 Comments: Well I'm not too impressed with what Gov. Bush had to say when he replied to my e-mail. I feel like his reply was a big "STROKE JOB" !!! See Below, his reply is first and my e-mail to him is below that. Let me know what you think. Thanks. By the way.....you are doing a TERRIFIC job on this site. Keep up the GREAT work !!!!!!!!!!! Ellen Subject: RE: HB1911 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 06:39:52 -0400 From: "Jeb Bush" |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-06-04 07:14:22 Comments: In reply to STEPHEN DAVIDSONS' counter attack on me. Sorry about what seems to be a personal thing. The injuries would not increase without helmet laws, because the people opposing the law are already not wearing helmets. We are wearing "HATS" made to resemble a helmet. In 1972 I worked a helmet from the inside to appear official, but was about as thin as the candy coating on an M&M. The "novelty" helmets have since taken the lead on this. Most bikers are like you and me. Financially responsible taxpayers. And yes, I have the group insurance to handle any situation. But most of our tax dollars will currently go to care for and nurture non-taxpayers. A precious commodity. If they don't have to work for a living, then they are free to lay around the house all day and make MORE little non-taxpayers. Should a biker need a little of that money for an injury, then I think he should have it. He probably is a taxpayer himself. We'll just skip a payment on the non-taxpayers new Lexus this month. |
| Name: Ian
Morrison
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Novato, California Time: 2000-06-04 01:21:46 Comments: If Bush vetoes HB1911, is there any reason why an override by the legislature isn't possible given the overwhelming majority it passed by? |
| Name: Tom
Best
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-06-03 17:32:44 Comments: The insurance deal is a political gimmick the Republicans are using to pull a CYA so they can pander to their constituents and special interests. They have given the Governor the political cover to veto the bill by making the excuse the insurance limit is not enough. Bottom line is if HB1911 is signed, it will probably cost someone some profits they now get from the forced sale of helmets and cut into some of the Insurance company's revenue. |
| Name: Darlene Brock
Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Panama City Time: 2000-06-03 02:08:47 Comments: I find it interesting that so many people believe a helmet will save you, regardless, when it comes to an accident.A comment was made to me that if I choose not to wear a helmet and they run me over they should not be burdened with the financial obligation of the injury. My response was you should be paying better attention and that would be your obligation, regardless. It should be my right to choose.As a working, tax paying, Floridian with insurance. |
| Name: Rusty
Phillips
Website: Referred by: Net Search From: New Smyrna Beach Fl. Time: 2000-06-02 22:21:48 Comments: I just want to thank the creator of this website who took the time and made the effort to inform all of us about the progress of this bill from it's introduction to it's trip to the governors desk for his signature. You have performed a community service that cannot be underestimated. Thank You. |
| Name: M.
Moore
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Sanford Time: 2000-06-02 17:54:35 Comments: Regarding the post by Stephen M. Davidson; with all the statistics pertaining to the more than 45% of ALL head trauma being due to automobile accidents, would it not be more prudent to consentrate on the EXISTING public burden before we go trying to fix that which hasn't even had time to exist yet? Seems to me, if motorcycle riders were going to be a burden on the tax payer, they already would be. After all, the State of Florida at present, does not require a motorcycle rider to carry any insurance at all. If medical insurance is a necessity, then it is a necessity for all drivers on our streets and highways and not just the motorcycle rider. The law should not discriminate. Hopefully, Governor Bush will sign this bill and then we can get on with the business of bringing motorcycle insurance in line with that of other forms of private transportation. |
| Name: Lee
Roller
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-06-02 14:50:27 Comments: I think that Steven Davidson should either read Steve Zimmers article on insurance, determination of rates and risk pools ('Without Helmet Laws Who Pays?' in the 'Statistics Studies And Information' section of this site) or choose his words more selectively. We do not 'all pay'. That is the type of misleading generalization that has kept us down for so long. If Steven genuinely believes this, he deserves to be enlightened on the facts of the matter. On another note, I sent another e-mail (my 4th regarding this bill + 2 phone calls) to Jeb@Jeb.org and sure enough, I got a reply within a few hours that was specific enough to the content of my original e-mail that the Governor (or whoever composed the reply) HAD to have read my original e-mail, so the Governors office seems genuinely interested in soliciting and reviewing input from the public on this matter. Please get involved and involve those you know as well. I believe the Governor is, at this point, finding that voting his conscience is counter balanced with the cost in political expediency. He needs to know that there are voters who will continue to support him if he signs the bill. Politely express your gratitude in advance when asking him to sign the bill. I think he wants to, let him know we also want him to. |
| Name: Stephen
M. Davidson
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Pensacola Time: 2000-06-02 13:27:22 Comments: My message is for Johnny Pate and those like him. Why is it when someone disagrees with you or your opinion that you personally attack them? You talk about the Constitution and your "rights", yet you want to strip those very rights away (free speech) from those that disagree with you and your viewpoint. I DID say I was for choice in regards to the helmet law, with the provision that the insurance requirement be higher. I carry $300,000 worth of medical coverage. It costs me $284.00 a year, not much more than the price of a good helmet. There is an old saying where I come from and it goes something like this..."If your aunt had balls, she would have bee your uncle." IF you fall off your scooter and sustain a closed head injury and end up in a nursing home doing the 50 yard slobber the rest of your life, you will probably wished you had been wearing a helmet. Then again, if you fall off your scooter while wearing a helmet and break your neck as a result of the helmet forcing your head back, you will probably be wishing they had REPEALED the helmet law. My only contention in this matter is that what ever choice you make should not be a burden to the taxpayer. Raising the insurance requirement, as some propose, will address this matter. Personally, I think that if the law is repealled (as written) insurance rates will increase substantially, then we all pay. |
| Name: Ian
Morrison
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Novato, California Time: 2000-06-02 10:14:55 Comments: I just e-mailed the governor and pointed out two things: 1. Kentucky passed a helmet repeal in 1998 with a $10,000 insurance requirment. In 2000, they removed the insurance because they felt it wasn't needed. 2.Florida's own statistics included in the staff analysis of the original Florida repeal bills (H117 and S126) show lower rates of incapacitating injury and fatality for helmetless riders. Thanks again for all your work on this site. Doing what I can from here and hoping to visit Florida when it is a free state. |
| Name: Larry "Gator"
Elferdink
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Orlando Time: 2000-06-02 08:44:08 Comments: I have been following this site for a little over a month now and I apreaciate all of the information which I have gotten from you. The poster you made didn't address the age 21 issue. I copied the poster, added that info printed it and took it to a printer, had a couple dozen copies made and distributed them. After reading some of the rescent comments, I get the impression that some of the people think that commenting in this forum is the same as contacting the Governor. If I'm right, it wouldn't hurt to mention in your next message that we need to use the telephone, mail and e-mail to contact the Governor's office as well as commenting in this forum. I know this seems redundant, but we must get the message to his office. I have personally witten the Governor one letter, sent two e-mails and called his office four times. I also plan to utilize the two new e-mail addresses which you just provided. Keep up the good work, this is one of the most informative pages I have seen on the subject. (I JUST WANT THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE) |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jax Time: 2000-06-02 07:25:59 Comments: Please be careful what you say !! If you read the entry by Christi Shriver, she says she does not believe in the effective quality of a helmet, but in the same paragragh contradicts herself by saying persons under 18 should wear them. I have heard this statement made before, and it sends the message that helmets do some good after all. My message is a helmet can break anyones neck regardless of their age. |
| Name: Christie
Shiver
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: tampa, florida Time: 2000-06-01 15:25:20 Comments: Statistics show that helmets are not necessarily a deterent to injuries. They are heavy, obscure your vision, bugs get in the sides and the wind about rips your head off. I believe that the weight of the helmet can hinder you if you are trying to hold your head up so that it doesn't bounce all over the pavement, there by possibly breaking ones neck. Besides which, if a person should be responsible for thier own life!! On the other hand, however, I do believe that under 18 years old should be required to wear them. |
| Name: MARY
STEVENS
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: TAMPA, FLORIDA Time: 2000-06-01 15:15:21 Comments: NO HELMETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Name: Tom
Phillips
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: St.Petersburg, FL Time: 2000-05-31 23:24:54 Comments: Dear Governor Bush Please sign HB1911. Thank You! Tom Phillips |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jax Time: 2000-05-31 07:56:52 Comments: Enough is enough !! July first is a Saturday. I intend to ride without a lid, law or no law. Whether he signs the bill or not determines where I ride. This may sound ugly, but if he does not sign it, I want to organize a ride, NO LIDS ALLOWED, and so big it would take the police and the armed forces to enforce the lid law. Only stopping to hassle drivers on the phone. Taking the keys away from drunk drivers we see along the way. Making "citizen arrests" for motorists driving stupid. And finally ending up in Jebs front yard. Anyone want to help? Johnny |
| Name: Johnny
Pate (again)
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jax Time: 2000-05-30 22:58:02 Comments: HEY JESSE SPARKS !! You definately have the right idea. The idea is not to crash. Forget the crash helmet, as they do no good above 20 MPH anyway. Besides, how many times have you seen a cruiser type biker charged with an accident? It is usually the Soccer Mom with her fuckin mini-van at fault. Or the old geezer too old to be driving, or the hot shot with Daddys BMW. And it IS a law they have insurance to pay for what they break. The problem is these tight asses don't want to see bikers on the road. And if they must see us, they want to see full face helmets, preferrably soft bright colors, so we look more like yuppies with toys instaed of the intimidating looking black leather clad ruffians they fear so much. |
| Name: jesse
sparks
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: orl Time: 2000-05-30 11:24:25 Comments: As a rider who uses his bike for daily transportation and averages over 20,000 accident-free miles a year, I hope to god that Jeb signs the damn bill. The fatigue created from wearing a helmet is unbearable and actually increases the chances of making fatal mistakes. I've nearly crash innumerable time at 60 miles an hour trying to keep the damn thing from flying off. Talk about hazardous!!! The point is not to protect your head in an accident, but to learn how to ride your bike and not crash in the first place. Look at the bike week accident summary reports. Almost all were alcohol related. Modify the helmet law and introduce a bill banning idiots from riding motorcycles! |
| Name: rainmaker
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Florida Time: 2000-05-28 19:58:52 Comments: I feel it is about time we have the right to decide on wearing a helment or not.Their is to much controversy on the pro & cons of helment safety. I myself will probely still wear a helmet even though i carry insurance.Take the cell phones away from the people while driving.That is more of a problem than a helmet. |
| Name: Jimmyk001
Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Miami Time: 2000-05-26 12:52:59 Comments: Well, status sure looks dissapointing based on what he said during the town hall meeting. Something about "Balancing the Freedom of choice against the increased cost to the taxpayers of Florida" He also mentioned that he still has a few weeks to think things over. Obviously, nothing is going to happen any time soon. My analysis: He is probably saying these things due to his presence in a public forum. A few weeks will let some of the controversy around this bill settle a little. Lets not give up hope. Keep up the letters, email and faxes. |
| Name: Robert
Valdes
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Trenton Time: 2000-05-26 12:15:13 Comments: Well guys, looks like he's not gonna sign it. The insurance is not enough. Well it saves me from having to vote republican next time. I'll just keep riding illegally and take the chance of tickets for my right to dissent. Maybe next year. |
| Name: Richard
Williams
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Jacksonville, FL Time: 2000-05-24 10:21:39 Comments: I hope Gov. Bush does the right thing and signs the bill. Let us make our own choice. IT'S TIME. If for some strange reason this bill does not get signed then another bill must be put together requiring people who drive convertible cars to wear helmets. |
| Name: Robert
D. Helveston
Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Wauchula, Florida Time: 2000-05-24 09:49:43 Comments: Dear Governor Bush: Our country was founded upon principles of liberty and freedom. Somewhere along the line many of these principles have been discarded. Now we find “big government” telling us what we can and cannot do with our lives. HB 1911 is one opportunity to restore a small portion of that freedom. Motorcyclists should have the opportunity to make our own choice regarding wearing of helmets. Critics would have you believe hat this will increase the injuries and the public would have to pay for these injuries. Helmet laws have been repealed in other states without the great rise in fatalities. You should know that it is safer to ride a motorcycle that to go to your doctor. There are 700,000 medical doctors in the U.S. There are 98,000 medical accident deaths per year which is .05 per doctor. There are 4,000,000 motorcycles in the U.S. and there are 2000 fatalities per year making that .0005 per motorcycle. Please give us our freedom. Sincerely yours, Robert D. Helveston, D.C. |
| Name: Wayne
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: WPB Time: 2000-05-23 22:50:02 Comments: There doesn't seem much we can do about the media but we sure can try to get people to help us call the Gov. I've printed out the flyers and I'm taking them to Miami Subs bike night on Friday. I hope others are doing the same. The numbers seen here do not look very convincing. Wayne |
| Name: phillip
perry
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: floral city Time: 2000-05-23 17:36:12 Comments: a friend told me he was listening to wktk 98.5 out of ocala gainsville yesterday morning. the dj storm roberts was talking how this law was really stupid & how riding without a helmet was stupid & the worse thing the bush could do was to sign the bill. said he really pounded hard on this & that people should request he veto the bill. think we should boycott his morning show. ( don't listen to it any myself) |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jax Time: 2000-05-22 22:28:51 Comments: Mr. Luchinelli !! It appears you have vision past the end of your nose!! You are so right! That is exactly where we are headed. The macine cut me off before I finished that dream. Smokers were forced into the closet, while gay's are coaxed out. Automobiles are all electric to protect the ecology, and trees for that stupid spotted owl to sit in. A Yugo would be a step up. We don't need helmets on our heads if they can force our butts on a bus. It's time Americans took America back. Why is it I can ride a Moped 35 mph without a helmet, but I can't do the same on a motorcycle? Why can't we teach the Cubans to speak English instead of us learning Spanish? |
| Name: Luchinelli
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-05-22 15:21:00 Comments: I had a similar dream about the year 2013 – my tax rate is at 75% to fund the new laws requiring 1 law enforcement officer for every 2 citizens; an exploding prison population due to new mandatory minimums for “crimes” such as possession of date rape drugs…..ehrrr sleeping pills and herbal supplements; THIS IS WHERE WE ARE HEADING – seriously, the St. Pete Times ran a (mostly) negative article on HB1911. It quotes an Governor’s office employee stating that about 500 letters, faxes, e-mails had been received, approximately 65% in support of him signing the bill. I guess that’s a little disappointing to think that only 325 of us have been taken action. Please print the flyer available on this website and distribute wherever your fellow bikers hang out. |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-05-20 23:48:56 Comments: LAST NIGHT I HAD A TERRIBLE DREAM The year was 2013. I was 68 years old and still working because the retirement age had again been bumped, this time to age 75 because all the social security money had been used for a form of welfare to able bodied people working the system. I was having to work odd jobs because I did not speak Spanish, and that was a requirement in our new workplace. I had pulled some hard time in prison because I shot a prowler in my own home, but they called it murder because I did not have a mandatory child proof trigger lock on my pistol. Never mind the fact the prowler didn't have one either. All men were now required by President Tipper Gore to have "V" chips implanted in their brains to filter thoughts of sex, because we are all porential rapists according to the National Organization of Women. And as for the helmet law there was no need for one. Motorcycles were banned years ago when they found seatbelts and airbags were not being cheerfully used. Smokers were banished to the clos |
| Name: Tony
Rossi
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Orlando Time: 2000-05-19 14:52:28 Comments: The issue that I find most amazing about the non-rider position of helmet use, is their desire to preserve life with a helmet. Maybe some should preserve the unborn by use of the helmet as a contraceptive device, or since heart disease is the #1 killer they should consider putting the helmet in their mouth at fast food resturants to keep their cholestrol down. Possibly the state should eliminate high fat food resurants completely to prevent more deaths. Those that wish to wear helmet will still be allowed... Should the governmet REALLY decide if they are better suited to make our decisions for us... So much for a FREE country. |
| Name: Softail
Ron
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: DeBary, Fl Time: 2000-05-19 11:10:55 Comments: Just came upon this interesting article in Hot Rod Bikes entitled DOCTORS MORE DEADLY THAN BIKES - STUDY. The National Coalition of Motorcylists (NCOM) recently released a statistical study that shows that while physican groups are of some of the most active in promoting helmet laws as a way of "protecting you" from dangerous practice of motorcyling, they themselves are a far larger problem. Quoting from a USA Today article, NCOM shows that of the 700,000 physicians in the U.S.A. there are 98,000 deaths due to medical accidents, or .14 deaths per doctor. Motorcyles are remarkably Safer in fact. With 4,000,000 motorcylces in the US, there are 2,000 fatal accidents per year or, are you ready for this, .0005 per motorcyle. Having lived in Conn. most of my life and not having to ever wear a helmet and now having to wear one is quite a change and not a good one at that. Everyone needs to be e-mailing calling faxing etc the Gov. to get this repealed. Now is the time!! |
| Name: David
L. Walton
Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Ft Lauderdale Time: 2000-05-18 21:23:24 Comments: I have using this page to keep track of what is going on in this great state, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, call, write, fax, or whatever you have to do to let the Governor know we need his support to let us make the choice. We must not relax for even one minute until the voices of doom are drowned out, and we as a biking community have the freedom we deserve. FREEDOM OF CHOICE. Hang in there brothers and sisters, we can win this one..... |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-05-18 07:18:01 Comments: THINK !!! When does an accident involving a motorcycle happen? When they tangle with a car. Who is usually charged with that accident? The driver of the car. Seldom will a biker be at fault in one of these accidents. They need to be more alert and less aggressive than the 4 wheeler. It is impossible to talk on the phone and ride. You can't put on make up, shave, play Goo-Goo with the baby or read the bible while riding a motorcycle. So a biker will seldom be at fault in the accident. 4 wheelers are supposed to be insured. The insurance is to pay for what they break. So who do we burdeon? Not fellow taxpayers. If anyone needs more adequate coverage, it's the 4 wheel motorist. |
| Name: Michelle
Warren
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Ocala, FL Time: 2000-05-17 20:34:32 Comments: "They" say we should be responsible riders, that we should wear helmets and not expect the taxpayer to pay for medical costs for an under-insured motorcyclist involved in an accident. Am I, as a motorcycle-riding taxpayer, not entitled to the same expectation of my fellow citizens? I know that under-insured people, from every walk of life, receive treatment for their "risky behaviors" - drug abuse, high cholesterol, continuing pregnancies, STDs, smoking, bad driving habits,etc. - all of which are preventable. When fellow taxpayers, are held accountable for their behaviors and lifestyle choices, that's when I'll support a helmet law and the government's continued intrusion into my personal life. |
| Name: David
A. Davis
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Orlando, FL Time: 2000-05-17 17:56:56 Comments: Ms. Shaw should mind her own business. The Sentinel AKA Slantinel are famous for using the power of the press to mis-inform the general public. Seems they need to write lies and gossip in order to sell the paper. Perhaps Ms. Shaw is anticipating an appointment to the National Inquirer Staff. She certainly would fit right in!! If she rides a scoot she needs to wear a helmet. That whistling noise is due to a lack of brain matter in that empty head of hers. I suggest she stay on the back seat out of the wind. Having no common sense is a requirement to work for the Orlando Slantinel! I plan to cancel my suscription today. They won't use my money to spead their lies and misinformation. |
| Name: Dragon
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Miami Time: 2000-05-17 14:13:18 Comments: HELP SAVE AMERICA, RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION, STOP SPECIAL INTERESTS...DON'T VOTE FOR LAWYERS! http://www.constitutionalguardian.com calhounreport.com americans4legalreform.com |
| Name: George
Smith
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Ft. Lauderdale Time: 2000-05-17 09:47:22 Comments: let those who ride deceide...its all been said over and over. enough big brother |
| Name: Arron
Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Brandon Time: 2000-05-16 17:18:20 Comments: Let's hope everyone is paying attention to what is being said here and calling and writing Jeb Bush. If it doesn't go now I don't think it will ever happen without big time insurance amounts. |
| Name: Michael
Moore
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Sanford Time: 2000-05-16 18:56:18 Comments: EVERYBODY needs to contact Governor Bush and let him know just how many of us are out here. Email his office every day, it only takes a couple of minutes. I would also contact the editor of the Orlando Sentinel to let him know just how displease we are to see an important source of news and information here in central Florida, providing less than all the facts to its readers. If they are distorting the truth on issues of small importance, just think what they're doing on the major issues. Gov Bush.... fl_governor@eog.state.fl.us Orlando Sentinel.... insight@orlandosentinel.com |
| Name: Pete Perrelli
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Clearwater Beach Time: 2000-05-15 20:43:45 Comments: I just Emailed and called the Governors office to tell him to follow his brothers lead in this matter.I'm sick of reading what everybody else in the papers have to say.They are uninformed and proably dont know what a enricher is never mind actually getting on a bike.So to all you do gooders go and find a real cause and LET THOSE WHO RIDE!! DECIDE. |
| Name: Lee
Roller
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-05-15 13:29:25 Comments: Just phoned Jeb's office (5/15/00, 8:30AM) to voice my support of HB1911. My opinion was politiely recorded and I was told that it would be passed on to the Guv. I also asked if there were a lot of 'anti' call coming in as well and was told that 'yes, there are' so... PLEASE PHONE FAX OR E-MAIL THE GOVERNORS OFFICE WHILE YOU STILL HAVE THE CHANCE! DON'T COUNT ON SOMEONE ELSE DOING IT, THESE ARE YOUR RIGHTS FOLKS! |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jax Time: 2000-05-15 03:21:09 Comments: This newspaper business is starting to piss me off. How many of those pencil necked geeks even ride? I am afraid the lady from Calif. may be right. It seems it is taking Jeb a long time to respond. I have written my E'Mail to him, as I hope the rest of the troopers for freedom have, and even praised him for the way he handled Affirmative Action. I hope he shows as much intestinal fortitude when it comes to standing up to the non-riders opposing the helmet law modification. As far as the financial burdeon on the taxpayers is concerned, do they think bikers pay no taxes? As a matter of fact I personally paid $27,000.00 in income tax last year myself. That is more than some of these opponents MAKE in a year. So I feel I have just as much or more right to the cost they are worried about as some of the deadbeats living off the system. I have big group coverage on my job, but if I did not, I am financially stable enough to handle most situations. If they would like to exempt all bikers from paying taxes, then fin |
| Name: Ian
Morrison
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Novato, Ca Time: 2000-05-15 02:30:20 Comments: It sounds like if the heat for Bush is too much, he will use the amount of insurance as the reason for a veto. Reminds me of Ridge in Pennsylvania in Dec 98 using the eyewear as an excuse for veto of the PA helmet repeal. Can it really be taking this long for the enrolled version to get to the governor? The longer it goes without his signature, the sketchier it looks. |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-05-13 12:29:34 Comments: To this Guy Steven Davidson!! ARE YOU SOME SORT OF NUT?? Don't you realize the helmet law is nothing but a joke? We are already wearing illegal helmets that are no more than fiberglass hats to keep the cops off our ass. And when it became an issue, I even modified a legal helmet to be comfortable but look official. If I can do it, everyone can. What is with the insurance? Your tax money is now going to so many stupid special interest entitlement programs anyway. And by the way, Einstein, the word is repeal, not repell!!! Johnny Pate |
| Name: Don
Mitchell
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Chicago(valrico now) Time: 2000-05-12 14:20:42 Comments: Thank You for all your help when I moved down here and recivbed my first citation the second day I was here it floored me to learn of the law(shame on me for not checking). I grew up in chicago and as you know there is no helmet law, what a freedom for those of you who dont know wait till July 1 I guess it is kind of its own indepandence day. |
| Name: Stephen
M. Davidson
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Pensacola, Fl Time: 2000-05-12 01:40:04 Comments: Although I believe in personal choice I am against repealling the helmet law as currently written unless the insurance coverage is raised substantially. |
| Name: David Smith
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: boca Time: 2000-05-11 21:21:16 Comments: I thought we were good, The Sun Sentinal news paper said last Sunday that it was a law already, and I've been telling people it was a done deal. I can't believe this shit. I'm glad I came here. I already e mailed the governor, and I'm gonna start calling my friends. Thanks again Helmet Law 101, Dave Smith |
| Name: Walt Corwin
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: DeBary FL Time: 2000-05-11 21:05:13 Comments: -----Original Message----- From: Corwin, Walt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 1:54 PM To: 'insight@orlandosentinel.com' Subject: Helmet Laws (sign it Mr. Bush and MOVE ON) After reading through the Our Views and Letters From Readers sections for the past few days I am amazed by the amount of concern being expressed for my little head. Thanks but please stop; you are MAKIN' ME GAG HERE! If you ride a motorcycle and want to wear a helmet, as an adult that should be your decision (WOW! what a concept). If you don't ride, you might consider re-directing the energy you spend whining about this issue to something that really does effect YOU and really does cost YOU money (believe it or not Martha, there's a whole bunch of those issues out there!). Meanwhile, take better care of the heads you are responsible for and stop worrying so much about mine. Walt Corwin DeBary |
| Name: Michael
Van Amburgh
Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Oldsmar Florida Time: 2000-05-11 16:42:58 Comments: I feel that prochoice is right. We as Americans have been taught that we are free and have the right to make choices in life. Its really ashame that the American public will speak out on issues that they have never had any experience with. I myself along with many other riders feel we have a right to ride with or without a helmet. Judgement in where to ride with or without a helmet should be our choice. I have talked with many people on this issue and found that the majority of the people who spoke out against the repeal have never road a motorcycle in their life. This seems to be a large issue with other problems this country has. I myself look forward to being able to ride free. Isn't that why we are considered the greatest nation on this planet? Isn't that why everyone or I should say most try to find their way to this wonderful free land we live in. People are doing drugs, Kids are killing each other,abortion is still in the limelite,The world is still talking about what went on in DC, why shouldn't we as Americans have a choice ? I voted for our Governor because I felt and still feel that he is a fair man. So I put my trust in him to give not just a few of his people but a large number of his people that do ride and would more than enjoy the freedom of the wind in their hair and in their hearts as Americans with a voice and a choice. Please sign the package and let us ride as the free Americans that we are. God Bless Michael L. Van Amburgh CADDY (S.O.G.) |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-05-11 11:56:38 Comments: Hey back to you Chris in Clearwater!! As much as I would like to have a plush vacation at the tax payers expense, they would not do that for you or me because we both speak english.The part about Janet and Slick Willy with weapons aimed at us could happen. But maybe if we use our "Helmets" to hit them with, someone will call them weapons and make them illegal.If this bill does not pass, I will have to deal with the ASPCA (american society preventing cruelty to animals), as I have already promised my pet turtle he could have my skid lid to use as a sex toy. A dissapointment like that could have the animal rights people putting my head in a noose for the turtles trauma. Johnny Pate |
| Name: B.D
Grayson
Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Vero BEACH, FL Time: 2000-05-11 05:47:18 Comments: Hey, I'm originaly from Minnesota, where they repealed the helmet law years ago. Once they cut through all the BS, and all the hoopla dies down,people either wear the things or not... not to much is thought about it.After a while, they (the do-gooders) will have another "cause" to champion, and they'll forget about us, hopefully. I'm looking forward to making my OWN choice!... B.D.Grayson |
| Name: Ray
Carty
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Florida Time: 2000-05-11 03:34:44 Comments: Going beyond the issue of government sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong; The helmet is an annoyance and impairs the ability to hear and see, and puts the rider at a greater risk. I hate wearing the damned thing. I hope he signs the bill. |
| Name: Chris
Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Clearwater Time: 2000-05-11 01:11:25 Comments: Hey Johnny Pate, if we all get together and tie up traffic, maybe Janet Reno and Billy Boy will send in the Fed's with tear gas and blow darts. Then they will point their automatic weapons at our knuckle heads and take us all away to some nice resort and feed us tacos. What do ya think? |
| Name: Chuck
Philipp
Website: Bears Etc. Referred by: Yahoo! From: Ft Lauderdale Time: 2000-05-10 19:29:23 Comments: This is truly a cause I can back. As you suggested I've called and e-mailed the Gov. I can't wait for the day I can ride to Key West with out a helmet! |
| Name: martin
woodlee
Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: winter park, fl Time: 2000-05-10 18:25:06 Comments: This law will only effect motorcyclist. Please give us a choice. Sign HB1911. |
| Name: M.
Moore
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Sanford Time: 2000-05-10 16:53:20 Comments: Now is the time, for the motorcycle community as a whole, to stand up and be heard. Let Governor Bush know that the Constitution of this land guarantees these very freedoms some would have us denied. It is not, nor should it be, the business of this government, or for that matter any government, to protect me from myself. |
| Name: gorske
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-05-10 14:08:28 Comments: great site for providing information |
| Name: Lee
Roller
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Cleveland Ohio Time: 2000-05-10 13:29:34 Comments: Heres to HB1191. I hope Gov Bush signs it. If Republicans really believe in less government, he has to. I believe that the press' rabid opposition to helmet law amendment is not a genuine concern for society, they just believe that the helmet requirements keep the 'outlaw' bikers away. I already have a vacation planned thru Fla for early August. HB1911 would be a huge bonus to my trip. |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-05-10 12:18:09 Comments: This is Johnny Pate again!! After being so close, if these non-riding geeks opposing the repeal pressure Bush into a VETO, I suggest organized protest rides every weekend, without helmets, and in groups so large it would be impossible to stop us all, much less give us all tickets. Let's ride to Elaine Blume's house, the homes of all the newspaper editors involved, and everyone else standing in the way of the repeal. We could tie up traffic in major cities all around Fla., just like the Cubans did in Miami. I'm sick of being told what to do by all knowing Do-Gooders who have never even sat on a motorcycle. |
| Name: Robert
Valdes
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-05-09 23:02:41 Comments: As a helmet law violator, I find it amusing that the cartoon with the motorcyclist leaving his head behind, actually supports the facts that wearing a helmet does not prevent head or neck injuries. As shown by the rider's head still helmeted. Thank St. Pete for the support. May I recommend their advocation of additional laws mandating helmets for horseback riders, stair climbers, elevator riders, hot air balloonists, weather channel reporters, wheelchair patients, auto drivers, all ladder climbers, trail walkers (incase a branch falls on them), all building tenents, anyone outside on a windy day and any other situation called LIFE. They need to get a life and quit promoting legislation against stupidity. More cyclists have insurance than do auto drivers. How about fines for the cell phone drivers who have tried to kill me 3 times in the last week. Lets get serious, ok? Robert Valdes |
| Name: Robert
Valdes
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-05-09 21:30:35 Comments: It's interesting that the cartoon from St. Pete proves that helmets don't prevent injuries, as evidenced by the rider without his head, still wearing a helmet. |
| Name: Patrick Kelly
Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Boynton Beach Time: 2000-05-09 19:43:51 Comments: Living here for a few years, coming from Minnesota with no helmet law. Freedom of choice is the best way. It took long enough for Florida to get with the times on this issue. |
| Name: Mike
Fehn
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Lantana, FL Time: 2000-05-09 16:58:05 Comments: It is about time. I moved to Florida from Indiana where I had ridden without a helmet for years. I could not believe that in 90 degree heat I had to put on a helmet. Thanks to everyone involved..... my brain cells thank you as well. |
| Name: scott
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: palm city fl Time: 2000-05-09 02:31:12 Comments: hello,I hear bush is debateing,what have you heard? he must be getting heat |
| Name: Dave Smith
Website: www.cherywine.com Referred by: From a Friend From: Boca Raton Time: 2000-05-06 21:31:36 Comments: I don't get it are you Joe or are you Frank? (you handsome devil you) Dave Smith P.S. Thanks for all your hard work and helping us regain our freedom! |
| Name: Mike
& Judy
Website: Paradise Referred by: Net Search From: Bradenton, FL Time: 2000-05-06 12:23:41 Comments: We are both so happy that this bill will become law. As riders we have beleived that mature adults should be able to choose. Just found this site and will pass the word on to our other fellow riders. Thank you for keeping us informed on this issue. We have written the letters, and encourage others to do the same. |
| Name: Michael
Beske
Website: Referred by: Net Search From: my mother & living in FL Time: 2000-05-06 06:02:19 Comments: I am originally from WI. The helmet law was repealed in 1977 when 281,480 (+/-) motorcycles rolled in from every state in the nation. That included a person flown in with bike from Hawaii also. Legislators had no other option but to do what the people asked. Why do so many people who never even ride a machine try to tell the real riders how to, where to, when to, and with what we will ride with? Is not the whole ideal of freedom in this country our right to choose for ourselves? Where we will live, what we will drive, who we will work for, what we like to eat? That is our choice as an american. That is our right as a person of this free land. This is why we sent men to battle wars that were not even our responsibility. They died only for one possibility, that everyone, no matter where they lived, would be able to have the freedom to choose for themselves. Our choice is to ride free. Free to choose a helmet or not. In 26 years of riding a motorcycle, I have never seen another biker ever bash a rider for wearing, or not wearing a helmet. It is a mutual respect for another rider. It is after all,........their choice. |
| Name: Roger
Stovall Sr.
Website: Helmet Law Repeal Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Tampa,Fl. Time: 2000-05-06 05:32:48 Comments: Attention: Governor Jeb Bush remember I voted for you. Now it is time for you to vote for me! Please allow us to have Freedom of choice. |
| Name: joel
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: lakeland Time: 2000-05-06 04:55:15 Comments: In response to billy's question,ABATE has been fighting this issue from the beginning.I don't think too many people know about this site yet but they will.I have recently taken position of pres. with polk county chapter and also became an internet junkie.I have been with ABATE since '94 and am a life member because I believe in my rights as a biker and a voter.I wish I could have found this site sooner.It is informative to me as I hope that it is to all others that will be finding out about it. |
| Name: JOE
SLAGLE
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Port St. John Fl. Time: 2000-05-05 18:23:17 Comments: GOOD WORK ON THE PART OF THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED ON THIS MOVE. I'M AN OVER THE ROAD TRUCK DRIVER SO I SEE MANY STATES WITHOUT HELMET LAWS. AFTER I COME HOME FROM A TRIP THE LAST THING I NEED IS ANOTHER LAW OR RULE TELLING ME HOW TO ENJOY MY LESIURE TIME. I GET ENOUGH OF THAT FROM THE D.O.T. WHILE ENGAGED IN MY WORK. FREEDOM OF CHOICE IS A WONDERFUL THING. I AM MATURE & RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO DECIDE WHEN CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT FOR ME TO CHOOSE. |
| Name: Keith
Amdahl
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Bridgeport Wisconsin Time: 2000-05-05 16:37:46 Comments: I grew up with a mother who mandated the use of a helmet(minibike, moped, motorcycle). It was "her house, her rules". This is something I beleive strongly! I am very much in favor of the use of helmets. However, that is my CHOICE. I will only push another to wear a helmet if they are on MY bike. The bottom line is that it should be a CHOICE! Just as riding is a choice. I also believe that if head injuries are such a large concern to insurance companies and the medical community, they should create incentives within their own organizations to attain their goals. Forcing others to do what will enhance your own posistion is not what our governments should support. Possible solutions could be doubling insurance bennifits if a helmet was used at the time of an accident, or the threat of no coverage if one is not used. These suggestions protect the insurance and medical institutions and also preserve the right to choose! |
| Name: Billy
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Stuart Time: 2000-05-05 08:12:56 Comments: So Joel, where has ABATE been? We haven't heard anything from you untill the bill passed, What's up with that? |
| Name: joel
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: lakeland Time: 2000-05-05 04:41:41 Comments: another note from ABATE.here are the numbers and e-mail address for the governor. remember to please be polite and to the point. use GOVERNOR BUSH PLEASE SIGN HB1911 as subject for correspondence. phone:(850)488-4441 fax:(850)487-0801 e-mail:flgovernor@eog.state.fl.us the governor is the only one standing in our way of having the right to choose about wearing helmets. he is getting alot of heat from our opponents. again,let's show him our support. thanks, ALF |
| Name: Lou
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: St. Pete Time: 2000-05-05 03:00:27 Comments: I would feel much better if there were not an insurance requirement in this law but I'll take what I can get. Are there plans to lose the insurance requirement? Thanks for all the information in this web site. It helped me to contact those crooks in Talahassee. You guys rule. I'll see you on the road. I'll be the guy without the helmet. |
| Name: Tom
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: orlando FL Time: 2000-05-04 22:23:11 Comments: Just wanted to say I'm a long-time rider (started when FL didn't have a helmet law in 1966). I've owned two harleys, a couple or three hondas, a kawasaki, a yamaha and ridden God knows how many others, and never once liked being told to wear a helmet by any government representative. To show the flights of silliness our esteemed legislature has made in the past, one FL woman legislator (back in the 60's) even tried to mandate all M/C riders wear seatbelts. This helmet issue has always been about money...the insurance people claim they have to pay out the wazoo for riders w/o helmets who prang into trees or cars because bleeding hearts won't let moronic riders who chooose to ride w/o insurance die from their head injuries. Instead, we end up paying decades for para- and quadraplegic care. While it finally looks like we're going to get the freedom to ride w/o a helmet, if those of us who've been riding for a long time don't get the message out to club members and independents that they have to pay for insurance BEFORE THEY RIDE, it'll be taken away again....this time likely for good. I fully support keeping big brother off my M/C and as a 23-year retired vet from the USAF, I salute all those who have worked hard to get this beast repealed. Now, let's do our part by making sure everyone (at least everyone who rides w/o a helmet) is insured with medical coverage. It's the insurance companies who will raise the issue again if they begin to see the bottom line coming up too fast. |
| Name: Mac
McDougle
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Tampa, FL. Time: 2000-05-04 17:36:53 Comments: Here is the chance to prove that we are free in America! To alow adults to make decisions for themselves.The man who cries for safety over freedom ,deserves niether! |
| Name: Cliff
Beasley
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Lake City, Florida Time: 2000-05-04 17:07:14 Comments: I would like to say that after 38 years of riding I have chosen to wear a helmet 99% of the time. I precede the days of helmet law and special motorcycle license. I served in the military so that others might enjoy the same freedom of choice I enjoy (enjoyed) for years in the USA. It is great to have a glimpse of that freedom back. Let's hope Jeb signs the law and if he does - remember all that supported it at election time. Let Freedom Ring again in America ! P.S. As a state employee I have more than adequate insurance coverage but have never felt the biker community any worse off in regards to medical insurance than any other vehicle group. Most of my friends have adequate coverage to comply now. Let's see what they come up with. |
| Name: Mike
Kashkin
Website: The Prettiest Titties on the Net!!!!! Referred by: From a Friend From: Orlando, Florida Time: 2000-05-04 16:24:59 Comments: It is good to see that one more form of censorship dies..... Mike |
| Name: j
LeMay
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: tampa Time: 2000-05-04 12:11:01 Comments: The biker community in Florida owe you folks who worked so hard on this a very large THANK YOU. Let freedom reign. |
| Name: Dave Smith
Website: www.cherrywine.com Referred by: From a Friend From: Boca Raton, Fl. Time: 2000-05-04 05:05:59 Comments: ALRIGHT! We Are So Close, The govenor said he would not veto it, I can't belive we are this close. Thank you so much for all your hard work to those of you at HELMET LAW 101. You really made a big difference. I know you did. I'll see you out there. I'll be the guy with no helmet and a huge freakin' smile. YOUR FRIEND, DAVE SMITH |
| Name: Jim Judkins
Website: Referred by: From a Friend From: Texas (formerly Florida) Time: 2000-05-04 04:44:23 Comments: I ride motorcycles. I have ridden for 20 years. I now live in Texas where it is not required by law to wear a helmet. I wear a helmet by choice. To those of you who do not wish to wear a helmet, I say, "You know what your head is worth, I know what I think of my head." |
| Name: joel
gabbard
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: lakeland,fl Time: 2000-05-04 04:24:37 Comments: I am the president of polk county chapter of abate. This is what we have been working so hard and long for. I would like to thank those that have supported this effort and remind everyone that we still have to fight to keep it.Don't forget to thank your senators and representatives that voted for the bills. |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-05-04 03:45:45 Comments: I don't really understand all the ramifications of the bills, but if YEA BABY means what I think it means, I see why we are all happy all of a sudden. Does this mean I only use my helmet for keeping my head warm in winter? Putting it under my kickstand when I park in sand? As a billboard for stickers ( now minus the helmet laws suck sticker?)? For a porta-potty? To carry water? For oil changes? A popcorn pot? Do we have to buy insurance even if we already have group insurance on our jobs? NICE GOING!!!!! |
| Name: Art
Bobik
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Deltona Fla Time: 2000-05-04 02:06:15 Comments: YES-I happen to live in Senator Daniel Webster's district and I plan on helping to keep him in office for his helping us. After having the opportunity to decide for myself if I wanted to wear a Helmet that day while temporarily living in Texas, it was like having my freedom taken away for a second time when I moved back to Florida.I wish to thank everyone that pitched in to make this happen. I DO THANK YOU ALL. |
| Name: Ian
Morrison
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-05-04 01:28:33 Comments: This is a beautiful thing!!! I just hope that there's nothing else in that bill that will keep Bush from signing it. Congratulations!!! And thank you for the great job of updating the situation during the last 9 months. HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! |
| Name: Lonnie Brewer
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: oldsmar,fla. Time: 2000-05-04 00:43:22 Comments: free at last,free at last,praise God,free at last!!!!!now when i pull out of my garage without my helmet,i won't really "have"to go back & get it.is there any doubt of jeb signing? thank you so much for this site and all your efforts. see ya,lonnie |
| Name: SCOTT
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Time: 2000-05-04 00:27:11 Comments: YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFO ALL YEAR LONG |
| Name: Denzil
Gardner
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Tampa Fl Time: 2000-04-28 15:46:32 Comments: I,m in total support for FREEDOM OF CHOICE! My choice! |
| Name: Michael
Moore
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Sanford, Florida Time: 2000-04-27 16:56:04 Comments: By the way, just wanted to let you know what a great job your doing. I check this site daily for all my updates. Keep up the good work, it is much appreciated. |
| Name: Michael
Moore
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Sanford, Florida Time: 2000-04-27 16:52:33 Comments: Statistics clearly indicate that, if anyone should be wearing protective headgear, it is those traveling on four wheels, not two. I thought discrimination was something not tolerated in this country. Why the double standard ? |
| Name: D.
McCauley
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Citrus County Time: 2000-04-21 13:28:06 Comments: It seems that the only thing Senators and Legislatures listen to is BOYCOTT. If Abate and other organizations would boycott Florida, they just might listen. It worked in South Carolina with the flag and in Miami with the Elian Gonzalez deal.....If Florida motorcycle retailers and Daytona Beach thought they might lose a dollar........politicians would listen. Its $money$ that politicians listen to its not protests and rallys. Until someone boycotts or cancels bike week etc, they will never ever listen....... |
| Name: Chris
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Tampa Time: 2000-04-20 04:33:46 Comments: I'm sure someone has already mentioned this or perhaps even done this, but someone should orchestrate a petition, put it on the Internet, take it to Daytona Bike Week, Key West rally, etc. The petition should include drivers license numbers or something to verify the list is real, then presented to the Govenor by a very well spoken individual. Just my quick thoughts, but I'm sure they have already been stated. If you get enough press and attention showing that the biker community doesn't want the helmet law, individuals that are not bikers will be more apt to go along with it. Right now the common individual believes that most bikers are oblivious to the dangers of not wearing a helmet and that it is their civic duty to step in and protect us. I think most people that ride think its pretty stupid not to wear a helmet, we just don't care. It would be nice to have a choice! |
| Name: Johnny
Pate
Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Jacksonville Time: 2000-04-16 13:42:35 Comments: This is Johnny Pate again (check my attitude in older entry). While the insurance part of this sucks, it is a step in the right direction. Besides!! HOW WILL THEY ENFORCE THAT? Ha ve the cops stop every bike on the road to check his paperwork? It's like having to wear a seatbelt in a car. They haven't been able to catch me not wearing one yet, and I have yet to buckle up. Society constantly pays for the treatment of AIDS for these rump rangers having un-protected sex with their fag buddies, and they don't usually appear to pay taxes, as they claim they are too sick to work. Maybe they can pass a law requiring a rubber before they pack the fudge. That would also be difficult to enforce. Jp |
| Name: Todman2
Website: Referred by: Net Search From: Ft Myers, Fl. Time: 2000-04-14 22:00:45 Comments: Thanks for the great web site. Your hard work inspired me to take up the cause. It was to easy to take for granted that someone else would do all the work. Your site has allow me to E-mail all the Representatives |